Jim Rogers: “I Suspect They’ll Take The Pension Plans Next; I For One Am Worried, And I’m Taking Preparations”

I was able to reconnect for an interview with legendary Quantum Fund manager and commodities bull, Jim Rogers. This was an especially groundbreaking interview, as Jim shared thoughts on what governments around the world will be taking next, and what he’s doing right now to protect his personal bank accounts following the Cyprus collapse.

Speaking towards the frightening implications of the Cyprus banking collapse, Jim said that, “It’s been condoned [now] by the IMF, the European union, and everybody else in sight; that a government in need, can take assets. We all knew they could tax us…but this is the first time that I’m aware of, that they’ve gone in and taken bank accounts. They took gold from people in the U.S. in the 1930′s…but I’ve never heard of them taking bank accounts. [Now] they’re doing it. So be careful [because], now they can take your bank account under this precedent.“

When asked if bank account confiscation will be going worldwide, Jim said, ”Well, it’s now in their bag of tricks, but yes, they can do anything they want too now. I for one am worried and I’m taking preparations. Who knows if I’m right or not, but I’d rather be safe than sorry as all of those people who had money in Cyprus have learned. They thought they had a normal bank account…but now it’s been [taken] with the sanctions of many governments and institutions.”

Jim also urged that, “If people have money in any account, anywhere in the world…cut it down to under the guaranteed amount. They might take that too someday when things get desperate, because the precedent has been set, but that’s where I would start if I had money in the bank anywhere in the world.”

With respect to which assets governments will likely be coming for next, Jim said, ”401k plans, IRA’s, and pensions plans which the government knows about [may be next]…They’re rationale would be, ‘Well most people haven’t been doing well in their IRAs and pension plans for the past several years, so we’re going to help you. We’re going to take your pension plan and give you government bonds so that you have a guaranteed return.”

Jim further added that, ”That’s how they’ll rationalize taking our money. They know where all the pension plans are because we have to report it, so they’re easily accessible by governments. They know where they are, what they are, and they’ll be able to snatch them away. Who knows what they’ll do, but they’ll certainly find some way to take our money when things get worse, they always have.”

As a final chilling comment to end the interview, Jim noted that, “Anything they know about—they might easily take.”
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This was another powerful interview, conducted with an absolute legend of our time. It is required listening for serious investors and market students.

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Is It Time To Sell Your Gold?

Gold fell $25 yesterday; it now stands at $1,575 per ounce. The gold price could break all the way down to $1,000. But we don’t expect it. Gold is not in a bubble.

As you have seen, gold is neither overpriced nor underpriced. It buys about what it should buy. Maybe a little less. Maybe a little more.

How do we know what gold “should” buy?

We don’t, really. But gold is a natural thing. It is pulled from the earth by people, using the technology and resources available to them. As their productivity in other areas goes up, so does – generally – their ability to extract gold from the ground.

If GDP goes up 10%… the quantity of gold usually goes up about the same amount. If the economy goes into a decline, so does the gold mining industry… reducing the rate of growth of the gold supply.

For these reasons, the supply of gold is usually more or less in sync with the supplies of other goods and services. And the exchange rate between gold and other goods and services is usually stable.

This was also the observation of Roy Jastram, who wrote The Golden Constant in 1977. Jastram looked at 500 years of British history. He found that prices – in terms of gold – were remarkably stable.

And here we see that prices for stocks, too, were also stable… as long as gold – rather than an economist – stood behind the currency.

You can see for yourself from the above chart of the Dow/gold ratio going back to 1800. Prices for stocks went haywire in gold terms only after Congress created the Federal Reserve System in 1913.
Then the world went off the gold standard during World War I. (It was partly the struggle to get back on the gold standard that set off the bubble of the 1920s.)

Then there was another big run-up of stock prices – in terms of gold – in the 1950s and 1960s… and again in the 1980s and 1990s. The chart also shows the Dow/gold ratio heading down for the last 13 years… with no clear sign that it has reached the bottom.

But wait. Hasn’t most of the profit for gold buyers already been made? Tekoa Da Silva from BullMarketThinking.com explains:

In response to that, the Pareto Principle suggests that 80% of the gains are found in the final 20% of the bull market. As it currently stands, the Dow/gold ratio is sitting at roughly 9-to-1. A move to a 5-to-1 ratio would require a $2,907-per-ounce gold price, a 3-to-1 ratio $4,845 per ounce, and a 2-to-1 ratio would require a stunning $7,268-per-ounce gold price.

A 2-to-1 ratio move from here equates to a 400% move higher in gold, and of course, a 1-to-1 ratio ($14,500 per ounce) would equate to an over 900% move left remaining in the gold bull market.

Be Happy

Da Silva does not say so, but the Dow/gold ratio could come down in another way. Gold does not have to go up in price; stocks could fall. If the Dow were to slip to 8,000, for example, this would be equivalent to a 5-to-1 ratio.
When the stock market cracked in 2000… and gold continued to rise… we thought the two were headed for a historic conjunction. Perhaps at 2-to-1. Perhaps at 1-to-1. Where would the two meet?

We guess it would happen at about 5,000. Gold would rise to $5,000 per ounce… and the Dow would fall to 5,000.

Or at 2-to-1 – the Dow could fall to only 10,000… while the gold price rose to $5,000 per ounce.

Who knows? But there is no reason to think that things have changed in any fundamental way.

Gold is still real money. It is still brought forth only with much effort and investment. And the Dow stocks still represent a certain group of publicly listed, US-domiciled companies from which you can expect a certain earnings stream. There is no reason to think that the basic relationship between the Dow stocks and gold has been altered in any fundamental or everlasting way.

For practically the entire 19th century… many years of the 20th century… and as recently as the 1980s, the ratio of the Dow to gold was 1 to 5 or less. Investors paid 5 ounces of gold to buy the Dow and its earnings.

Will the Dow once again trade for 5 ounces of gold or less? Almost certainly. And it will probably happen before this historic drop in the Dow/gold ratio has reached its final bottom.

Source: http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article39793.html